有一起去伊朗的吗？

也計畫去
正在加緊學習波斯語

我现在大不里士感觉不错！

24# tejaratci31
住在迪拜，独自去伊朗的那位，你有msn吗？我在北京，非常喜欢中东和伊朗文化，想去伊朗常住，想先旅游一下看看。理想的路线是：迪拜+黎巴嫩+伊朗
 
我的email/msn: cranyfly@hotmail.com

去了才知道

接触波斯语一年多的时间了，从来没有去过伊朗，群里有朋友去过的吗？？
 
有计划要去的吗？我计划7月底的时候去自主旅游一趟。
fiona-yi 发表于 2009-3-10 16:06

 
 
 
 
 我经常独自去伊朗的
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3# bbis
 
 
 
 
 我经常独自去伊朗的
 
不过我不会波斯语。
 
真的要学一点，像中国一样，他们小城市基本都不会说英语。

15# dariush
呵呵, 我似乎错过了很有意思的讨论.
就如dariush所说的:"I don't think anyone "must love" a country then start to learn its languages or study its culture." 我讨厌韩国人和韩国自命不凡的"大韩文化",学了韩语觉得有和他们争论的媒介了,更加维护我们自己的文化传统不被韩国人占为己有.

玩转地球，就是我的梦想，现在在为梦想打基础。哈哈

好不好都要去接受，伊朗我还是会去旅游的。。

Just try to be more rational and less emotional.
Every culture and country has its own positive aspects and negative ones.

凡 “事” 和 “物” 都有 “正” “反” 两面性，
对于我来说， 心目中最重要，最美丽的肯定是我自己的 祖国，用一句通俗的话来说，就是：金窝 银窝，不如自家的茅草窝。
但是对于其他的国家的文化，我们也不能排斥，欣赏 和学习 异域文化的美丽之处，这个也是必须的。

 
I just try to think about the relationship between the emotion to a country and the study of its language or culture, no offending.
Obviously there can be 4 kinds:
Love the language and culture, lov ...
dariush 发表于 2009-3-15 17:50

Your tone seems like you are a university teacher... .Ok,i have to agree with you!But it depends on the definition of LOVE and HATE.In my mind,there is no real determination between LOVE and HATE,LOVE in some degree can be changed into HATE,the opsite is the same,for instance,before i hate iran,but now i love her.A lot of things can be changed,isn't it?Before i hate iran because i hate to wear  the scarf,but now ,i don't hate again,because on one hand it's another kind of beautiful with the scarf,on the other hand,we are living in a free country,all the women can not feel how free we are,because we were born without scarf,but after i had gone to iran,i can feel how free we are!

Ask you by the way,why you can't love a country when you learn their language？Maybe you have never tried ,but i suggest if you pay your love to others,your life will be different,trust me!!!!
莺莺 发表于 2009-3-15 15:48

 
I just try to think about the relationship between the emotion to a country and the study of its language or culture, no offending.
Obviously there can be 4 kinds:
Love the language and culture, love the country;
Love the language and culture, hate(or not love) the country;
Hate(or not love) the language and culture, love the country;
Hate(or not love) the language and culture, hate(or not love) the country
They may not be naturally related.
Sometimes it seems to be a dilemma or paradox

 
I don't think anyone "must love" a country then start to learn its languages or study its culture. Interest should take the first place.
Of course if you "love"(or we can put it another way, have st ...
dariush 发表于 2009-3-14 00:03

Ask you by the way,why you can't love a country when you learn their language？Maybe you have never tried ,but i suggest if you pay your love to others,your life will be different,trust me!!!!

 
I don't think anyone "must love" a country then start to learn its languages or study its culture. Interest should take the first place.
Of course if you "love"(or we can put it another way, have st ...
dariush 发表于 2009-3-14 00:03

Thanks for your sincerely reply,yes,you have your own point of view,i agree that learning language should be naturelly.i didn't mention that everybody should love a country then start to learn its language,your words sounds so sharp!I just mean that everybody likes complain something,include of me,but if you change to another angle,the world that you have seen must be better,isn't it?

安全基本上不用太担心，伊朗国内还算是比较安全的（德黑兰的交通秩序比较乱，伊朗人开车比较疯）
目前的情况也应该没什么问题，我的一个朋友一月底到二月初把主流线路走了一圈，从北到南。
旅游的话，基本不用担心碰到所谓的“安全问题”。

dariush 老师的意见非常中肯，居家旅行必备。我想问问去伊朗旅游的安全到底怎么样啊，现在很多地方都有绑架华人的事情，伊朗目前的情况到底是个什么样子呢？

First of all i'm sorry that i can't use chinese on this computer!
I think if you learn one country's language ,at first you must love this country,yes,iran is not good as we want,but you,me,and a lot ...
莺莺 发表于 2009-3-13 00:36

 
I don't think anyone "must love" a country then start to learn its languages or study its culture. Interest should take the first place.
Of course if you "love"(or we can put it another way, have strong interest in) the language and culture, you're much more motivated to attain further knowledge about the country(or culture seems to be more suitable), thus make progress fast.
Because sometimes one is not learning such things out of its own will, or is required to do so.
I try to be neutral while studying languages, and after I find interests, affection comes into place.
Comparison seems to be inevitable while you're in different places, people have diversified opinions.
It's good that you have positive viewpoint about the fact in Iran, and I agree with you to some extend.

伊朗本来就是那样了……就城市发展程度而言，德黑兰相对其他地方来讲要好不少，当然伊斯法罕还可以
其他地方就不咋地了
dariush 发表于 2009-3-12 20:25

First of all i'm sorry that i can't use chinese on this computer!
I think if you learn one country's language ,at first you must love this country,yes,iran is not good as we want,but you,me,and a lot of chinese and iranians can change it ,isn't it?